Secret Secrets

In keeping with my repetitious beating of a dead horse, I am repeating this post from the past so as to continue to beat the dead horse using my "one-note pony" technique as I do not have bigger fish to fry.  

Since the secrets they have locked in their spiritual chest have driven the Spiritual Rights Foundation towards its current circumstances and propel it to the brick wall in the path of its future, I guess it explains all the crazy things that have happened as well as foretell whatever nuttiness is yet to come.

That brick wall may be far ahead but there is a clear and present danger of the Spiritual Rights Foundation to not only those who remain in their cesspool but those who may fall into their clutches.

If you closely look at the SRF web site and look at the faces there, you'll notice one person who is clearly been there a long time and is showing the strain of years of hard work and pressure.  You may think this person is privy to at least some of the secret secrets at SRF.  You may wonder why this person cares to stick around when nearly all who entered with her departed.

Maybe not.

If you have nothing left, if you are so discouraged from the life that awaits you in the free world, maybe the dysfunctional community you have seems better than the community you lost, despite the secrets you have become aware of. 

We have all faced that.  It is time to face up to our role in all this and do, say or write something in our own way - publicly, privately, anonymously or identified.  Just read this blog if that's all you want.  I am told it is a help to those who remember the pain of this cult and it helps them forgive themselves, even if it is to the exclusion of the Witches of Ellsworth Street.

However, as so many of the can-bangers say: let's all forgive and forget what the Witches did to us and to anyone else they encounter - it helps us heal.  I did that with a cut once and learned penicillin and stitches healed it a lot better.

If that is triggering for you emotionally, I'd have to say you would be excused and you should avoid this blog until it is more comfortable for you.  Remember I understand PTSD well enough, even though I absolutely do not have it.  No, I do not care to say how I know I do not or under what circumstances I was able to know.  Nor is the outrage of knowing that I and my contemporaries were glued and screwed present in my aura or whatever the fuck you want to call it.

I call it responsibility.

The responsibility that I am the one voice who must speak for the benefit of the public is present, however.  That did not arrive from long study of religious and spiritual tomes, it came from the knowledge that someone, somewhere has to do it. Might as well be me.

Since I faced the evil face of the Witches of Ellsworth Street at their most intimidating and ferocious moment and not only stared them down, I won the battle of wills that allows this blog to continue and our voices to be heard.  Now, it's my responsibility to not rest on my laurels and continue to maintain the only place former members of SRF can participate and prospective members may find the other side of the story.

I repeat that on purpose: people forget that.  People forget our experience was repeated by those who came after us; is being experienced by those who remain and is waiting for those who join.

I'll forgive those people.  I won't forget, though.  As far as the Witches go, if you can point out one person who can honestly say he or she forgives the Witches for their intransigence and exploitative behavior, send him or her to me so I can have what's in their pipe.  Actually, don't do that.  It might be crack.

No one has forgiven the Witches, actually.  They haven't because the Witches go about their business as usual.  The Witches say they forgave me for this blog.  OK Witches, invite me to coffee.  Actually, don't.  There might be poison in it.

Does the ex-Bishop truly forgive the Witches?  I am sure she is having lunch with them weekly.  Take a look at her blog.  No mention of forgiveness there, unless she forgot.  She actually speaks of graceful transitions.  I guess that means forgiveness.  I don't know - I forgot.

One person still sings their praises.  She wasn't the one who was walking around the fringes, though.  This person was fully immersed - at least, she was until she got all her inheritance money cleaned out.  Then she praised the Witches for helping her.  No forgiveness there - she thinks they walk on water.  She also has people in her head saying things.  I know this - she told me what they said to her.

So if that tells you something, maybe your mind is still active and allowing you to see what is behind the curtain.

Maybe there is a purpose to all this.

So forgive me.  I forget I am an asshole at times.



Originally Posted: September 30, 2009

At the Spiritual Rights Foundation, there were so many secrets kept by the leadership, they needed to hire their own secret police to keep things on the down-low. However since they aren't all that smart and the secret police were crap at making people forgive and forget through hypnosis, some of those secrets came out anyway.

Those secrets tell a tale of greed, sexual misconduct, greed, infidelity, greed, and greed.

Oh, and there was a lot of greed too.

I lifted the following comment from Joy's blog. It is a comment left by someone named "Anonymous". And to you SRF pea-brain secret police reading this, hoping you can score points with your leash-holders, that means "I don't know who wrote it and that person was not me."  Besides, after I kicked your legal asses, I do have the right to convey information that is not only a strong opinion, if you look at these secret secrets, you can pretty well deduce they all have merit.

That said, enjoy this comment from "Anonymous"


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These secrets are probably just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure there are more of them.

Anonymous said...

 

I know many secrets at SRF and would be oh to happy to tell everyone who reads this, including those who are on the fence still at the cult.

1. Rev. Bill molested a person who was associated with the church.

2. Rev. Bill took money out of the donation box for his own needs. He would take out all the large bills and leave just the dollar bills in there.

3.When Rev. Bill took his name off all the legal documents regarding the whole corporation including all umbrella companies, he did so to not draw attention from the IRS, and any possible future lawsuit regarding molestation case against him.

4.Rev. Angela and Rev. Bill were lovers then Rev. Bill dropped Rev. Angela full time after she got jealous over Rev. Bill's attention towards Rev. Robin. Rev. Angela went out and got drunk and picked up some stranger in a bar for a night of self destructive behavior. Oh yah, she was on the board of directors of the church. Nice example!

5. Rev. Bill made sure that all properties and assets associated with the church, are to benefit two people and only 2 people....Rev. Angela Silva and Rev. Robin DuMolin. So, if they want to pull the plug at anytime, they would walk away with all the assets.

If they sell off the many properties, or liquidate any stock or bonds bought with church monies, they would go to Rev. Angela Silva and Rev. Robin DuMolin.

NO ONE ELSE IN THE CHURCH, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE NOT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS GETS A DIME!

Any student who is going through the training right now or in the future doesn't get a thing. Any current or past minister associated with the church doesn't get a thing if the place goes under.

And believe me, many old and new ministers don't know this!

Those who do know, are so conditioned to look the other way, because if they spoke up they would get verbally beaten down and isolated.

They were told to shut down the place and start again with all new people.

The current church bishop basically is a yes man for the two current top leaders, so not to catch the heat from above. Nice....!

Piling on is an art form at the cult. If you don't agree or are put into a position not to agree with the agenda, you are isolated and verbally abused in the staff meetings once a week, or at the beginning of each month. But this is called cleansing of the bad negative energy that is in the church. Trying doing an exorcism on yourself first!

Its like OJ saying when acquitted for murder, "I will look for the real killers". Yeah on the golf course, in Vegas and the bars you frequent. Try looking in the mirror.

The same goes for the negative energy in the church building, try looking in the mirror before you hold a staff meeting to dispense with the made up negative energies you did a reading on...oh clairvoyant one.....What a made up con of cons!

No different than the televangelists claiming something bad will happen if you don't cough up some money. Extortion through guilt, emotional blackmail and verbal abuse.

Happy Holidays everyone, and hope you learn from these accurate insights.

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I wonder how many more secrets exist? Enough to fill an encyclopedia, I'd guess.


4 comments on the above from Joy's blog:


Anonymous said...

So much for the sick and psychic. What a joke this place turned out to be. I was a student in SJ and witnessed what only perceived as hanky panky and arm twisting going on during the school break periods at night. That Rev. Steve was always under stress and felt like this place hardly ever had any students. That Sandi person I remember taking classes from, and in hindsight, I wished I could hug her now, as she probably needed one or many.

Wow, I came up to take some classes in there Berkeley school and had a few encounters with these woman that are talked about.

Rev. Robin seemed cold and calculating like a space alien scanning you, wanting to know if your intentions are threatening or peaceful.

Rev. Angela seemed like a hot wind bag and phony. I didn't know why all the talk was about getting a reading from her or taking a class from here. I was bombarded with advertisement for her so called gift and insight. Seemed like she was one of those lady gypsy scammers who bilk large amounts of money over time form victims who want to believe. She did seem to exhibit signs of drinking or years of drug taking.

Rev. Bill seemed like a inmate that welcomed the newly incarcerated. Scanned you up and down and wondered if he can use you to do his bidding. I'm glad this guy is not around anymore to lay waste on the rest of the poor people continuing to find fleeting thoughts of nirvana in a house of pain.

December 26, 2008 8:23 PM


Anonymous said...

I had bad encounters with the very fat Rev. Angela Silva. She seems to be eating her way to the grave these days. She doesn't even bother to show up in the building, and when she does, she is there to dump on people. I believe she is in a psychic panic once again, and wouldn't surprise me if they are systematically driving people out so they can pretend they have to close down shop for lack of support.

That is the plan, they are planning to retire soon and live off the millions they liquidate. I'm sure they know their days are numbered and their game only will anger those who were promised a place to retire, and will be left out on the street.

Another blimp squeezed into a male body is Rick Greer, who will drink the cool aid along with Dan "psycho Lyle" Boushey make sure others are forced to drink it as well.

I guess those guys are hanger ons hoping to get some of the pie that the fat Rev. Angela Silva and ice bitch/prostitute for money Rev. Robin DuMolin will dole out. The Bishop I'm sure will be given hush money to hide her secrets of the intentions of Silva and DuMolin scam team.

Robin DuMolin and Angela Silva can't hold a job, yet demand the people who have 40-50 work weeks to donate another 30 hours of there time to answer phones on the bullshit, make it up as you go along psychic help line, do prayer requests, (for a donation), teach classes and get paid only if you don't owe the church anything. Enjoy the money right now, because when you drop the body and have to look at yourselves, you will be in the society of people ordering you around and sucking your soul.

I heard Rev. Robin years ago specifically stayed away from her dying mother in order to give her so called (space) at the time of her death. Can you imagine that? Your mom wants you there and you specifically stay away. I'm sure your daughter who looks like she's turning out just like you will return the favor. She will have already learned to prostitute herself out for money just like you Rev. Robin.

Hey did you know that the fat Rev. Angela Silva was locked up in the Oakland psyche ward 30 years ago? She is the spiritual sage that runs the place. Did you ever hear about the stories of her shoplifting to support herself and drinking and drug habit? I only wish that you return to the life you crawled out from under and lose everything you have in your life right now. How about starting by giving back to the people you have lied to for all 26 1/2 years? Your god daughter is going to be a gypsy psychic like you've become.

The bishop is just hoping to hang on long enough so she wouldn't have to look at herself in the mirror and wonder why she's pretending to be a religious bishop.  Please, you need to face the evil emperors and retake your dignity before you go down the road of the dark side. Your husband needs to be sedated for a few years so he doesn't take you with him into the abyss!

Rev.Rick, are you still telling people your fired up about losing weight and getting your diabetes under control, but still weigh 360 lbs and eating greasy, fattening foods that will blow out your organs and make your son fatherless before he turns 18? Tough love you guys, because you always pounded it into us underlings for years.

Time to face the light.........Rev. Bill was a lying, child molester, con artist opportunist who had so much pressure put on him by the negative media, but more importantly Rev. Angela Silva and Rev. Robin who were his common law wives. They help put all that pressure on him the last 5 years of his life. He got what he deserved, and hopefully the pressures of this blog and others who have taken up the mantle will force you through guilt to relinquish the millions you conned people out of, and give it back to them. They are the ones that made that place run and for a time great. Angela and Robin are a couple of dried up cunts who if dumped out on the street would freak of having to go to work for a living. Quit pretending you are spiritual when you two old hags haven't done the true teaching in over 10 years!

December 28, 2008 6:14 PM



Anonymous said...

Hello!

Two different perspectives from 2 different people. I actually had a positive experience while at the academy for psychic studies. I had a reading which I liked, took one beginning class and left there feeling better about myself. I did go to one church service and have listened to others on the internet. The theme is always about giving, but the funny thing about this is they are suppose to help the community!

They are a church and churches always have some kind of event that help raise money for some social and religious causes. I have read very bad things about the SRF people. Can all of them be really that bad? Did they ever give back to the community without holding out there hand for a donation with the other? What kind of community outreach programs do they aspire to? Does and or did Rev. Robin, Rev. Angela and Rev. Bill ever pull there staff together without the use of coercion?

December 30, 2008 2:52 PM



Joy Butler said...

Hello Anonymous that had a positive experience. Thank you for your comments. I am always open to different perspectives. I believe you did have a very positive experience there. I did as well in the beginning. Ask most people who have taken one class or have gone into healing clinic or received one reading or two and they will probably tell you that they had a good experience as well and felt better for the experience.

They love you and are on their best behavior for sure. After a while when I started going up to Berkeley and started having interactions with Rev. William Duby I began to experience stomach pains, a sense of fear, heart racing and paranoia going into the academy. These experiences were felt by almost everyone there once they start getting more involved and are hooked. I am glad you only went for a short time and did not have to go through what some of us went through.

Now about your question on charity and helping the community. No the Spiritual Rights Foundation in all of its 27 years did little for the community. All the time I was there I remember about 3 times when the church asked members to give money to a charity or used cell phones to men in the military. That was it, oh and one Christmas recently they collected old coats to give to the homeless. But these were only recent occurrences. Now they are trying to do a little more just to improve their image.

But let me make clear that I have never heard or seen the church giving money from tithes or excess to anyone out of the goodness of their hearts. It would always be asked of the congregation for them to just give more. This is scandalous considering that they had many millions extra money in the bank.

So in the 14 years I attended there SRF did little to no community service even though Rev. William Duby would rant and rave that, “You have to give to live.” What he meant by this statement is that you have to give to his church to live. You had to give tithing, pay for classes, buy equipments, give 20+ hours of volunteer work often, give up your family, give up your career, and give up what you wanted so that the church could prosper. I am not exaggerating. This is what we were taught, coerced and suppose to do.

Most people that had been successfully indoctrinated would be giving up about 30% - 40% of their income to the church and then would be bullied into giving more on the whim of Rev. William Duby.

Your last question was about coercion, did Rev. Robin, Rev. Angela and Rev. Bill ever pull there staff together without the use of coercion?

Rarely. And coercion is a tricky thing. One can be coerced by very subtle ways.

On occasion staff would do stuff just because they wanted to. Many times Bill would use sex as a means to motivate people to do what he wanted them to do.

Ask my husband he can tell you about how he was told by Bill, “I can get you laid”. Bill paired him with a woman there and told him that this woman will sleep with him if she sees him working on their website improving it.

Bill then told the woman to not let Mike lay a hand on her and to only be with him under supervision or mainly only be with him as he worked on the web site. That year the SRF website won a prestigious award, I wonder why...not.

I unfortunately had the displeasure to be one of the supervisors of those two. It get’s sicker and more sadistic then this but I don’t feel like going into it right now – to painful.

The Coercion that was used had different levels of intensity depending on how advanced you were in the program. The more control Bill knew he had over you the more he would ask of you. But as a new person you would never see any of this, you would have to spend a year or two there and be in the clairvoyant training program to start seeing these things go on.

I hope I shed some light on your question.

Joy