Beer. The breakfast of champions.
Now that's my kind of woman: check out that stein!
I think she will show you what happens to boys
who don't finish their beer.
who don't finish their beer.
Today's guest post comes from the King of Evil, the O.G. of the Spiritual Rights Foundation dissidents. You know him. He's the first to fight the Witches of Ellsworth and Rev. Bill Duby and WIN! Of course, he fought for the well-being of his family and for the freedom of his child. He is an inspiration to us all and he is one of the many people I met at the Spiritual Rights Foundation who has given me moral support and guidance through the choppy seas of our fight with this notorious cult.
Mason, you have been our lighthouse in these dark waters inspiring me to continue the fight to free the world from the exploitative behavior at the Spiritual Rights Foundation.
Mason has generously contributed his Bill Duby Timeline of claimed events. You will see how all of Bill's claimed accomplishments jsut can't add up. It's part of the mind control of a deranged cult leader. He needs to show he is superhuman in order to keep his followers following and in line.
This timeline is updated with some of the Duby-ous achievements Bill told me personally and with additional Duby-ous achievements found from public sources - like the official, very public Spiritual Rights Foundation web site. Again, Mason has inspired me to dig a little deeper in the trash heap of SRF misinformation to find a few gems.
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Rev. William Duby Timeline
Bill Duby (AKA Bill Baldwin) was the founder of the cult called Spiritual Rights Foundation Inc. Over the years he told us about the things that he did and the major events of his life. The following is a list of things he claims to have done. I contend that he made up and/or greatly exaggerated different parts of it. He would only mention these events one or two at a time in different contexts for different situations to suit his needs in the moment, to give himself credibility with his students. The notion of checking his claims against a timeline never occurred to anyone before. Analysis was highly frowned upon in SRF and by Bill.
The timeline is too full to be true, even if some overlap of events is taken into consideration.
This paints a picture of a man who deceives his congregation to increase his personal power and influence in the church. And many of Bill's Duby-ous achievements are not represented in this timeline.
First will be a list of many of the things he claimed to have done in his lifetime. Afterward will be a timeline analysis to show clearly that he couldn’t possibly have done it all.
- Born January 6, 1945
- Lived with father in upstate New York for a number of years
- Mother died when he was young (Bill stated she died when he was, 6 or 8 or 9 and always claimed to have "known" the exact moment of her death).
- Moved to Bay Area as a child (without his father. I don’t know why)
- He was in 21 foster homes in Alameda County until age eighteen
- He was state pole vault champ in high school (~1960-63)
[I confirmed this with Bill's foster mother. MK] - Gold gloves champ?
- Went into the Army at age 18 for at least 2 years, possibly 4 years and was honorably discharged at the rank of Private.
He was not married while in the Army. - Attended Bible College in Galt, CA
- Married for 12 years
- He had two children in this marriage (this is true - we have met both of Bill's children)
- Worked as a programmer at General Foods.
- Worked at the US Army Induction Center in Oakland, CA.
- Ran a card room in Emeryville with his uncle, who owned the card club.
- He got divorced in 1971 (this is true)
- He was seriously ill in the hospital at the time of his divorce and almost died. He said he spent a few months in the hospital. Bill also claimed the physicians could not find anything wrong with him all the time he was hospitalized. You would think a few months in the hospital should be enough to come up with a diagnosis - or at least for symptoms to appear. (At this point he had to be at least thirty years old)
- He claimed at least 200 sexual relationships with women. He mentioned that some lasted for periods of time of at least weeks or months.
- He meditated for seven years, more or less in seclusion
- He studied nine great scriptures in depth
- He met Angela (one of his women) on the streets of Emeryville
- Took care of her for a period of time to get her off of drugs (months at least)
- He got himself mentally committed
- He was a student of Mark Reymont from 1976 to 1981
- He was a student at the Berkeley Psychic Institute for 1 2 years 1980 to 1982 (along with Angela)
- He started SRF in 1982 at the age of about 36
- He claims to have worked with at least 25,000 people in spiritual matters
- When we worked on various construction projects, he would mention in passing that he had various construction jobs. He never really spelled out exactly when and where, but it gave him credibility in knowing what he was talking about with the projects.
Now for a simple, common sense analysis of the information:
The divorce definitely took place in 1971. It is a public record. He stated numerous times that he was married for 12 years. That would mean that he got married in 1959… when he was 14 years old.
Apart from the obvious unlikelihood of a 14 year old actually marrying, that couldn’t have happened because he was in juvenile hall and numerous foster homes until he was 18 when Bill enlisted in the Army. Besides, during that time Bill claimed he was more occupied with the well-being of himself and his sister in their many foster homes to even think about girls.
If he got out of the army at age 20 and was married for 12 years, this only leaves at most, 4 to 5 years between the divorce and when he started the Spiritual Rights Foundation in 1982. (this is assuming that he was only in the army for 2 years and got married immediately after he was discharged.) Bill explained away this discrepancy to us by saying he had "abandoned" his family prior to his divorce. Unsaid was when this "abandonment" happened.
Somehow, Bill found time to attend Bible College in Galt, CA (in the California central valley) while he got married and started a family in the San Francisco Bay Area some two hours away from college. How it is possible for William H. Duby to have started a family, supported that family, tended to his studies and have time to commute between college and his family was never explained. How long he attended or what degree he held has never been said. The name of the college has never been disclosed either.
Being a programmer at General Foods sounds like a stretch - that means it is very likely untrue. First, those were the days where only the guys in white coats were allowed anywhere near a computer. The people who programmed were not the kind of self-taught guys we have today. You had to go to a prestigious college like Cal to learn how to do it. There appears to be no opportunity for Bill to have learned the craft of computer programming - unless that Bible College in the middle of California farm country had a million-dollar computer lab. The Army appears to have taught him how to use a rifle and how to patrol the Nike missile defense system for squirrels. It is highly unlikely that a young private would be entrusted to recognize an air attack and press the button launching surface to air missiles. And there isn't a way for a young private with only a high school education to learn computer technology in only two years. Not in 1963, anyway.
Back then, there were NO $500 laptops and computers were so big, they needed their own damn building. The guys let near the multi-million computers were people who had really expensive college educations. Bill famously eschewed all forms of higher education no matter the purpose. It is plausible he would have obtained the university education he needed to program the computers of the day? Yeah, I don't think so either.
Bill's claims of a months-long hospitalization is probably exaggerated or otherwise untrue. Bill was famous for lifting his shirt to display a ragged-looking scar, explaining that is what the physicians cut away from his body, in an effort to treat an illness they were unable to diagnose and for which, Bill was unable and unwilling to describe symptoms.
He failed to say no person would be hospitalized for months on end without presenting with symptoms. Further, insurance requirements (yes, even Medi-Cal would require this) as well as proper medical practice requires a physician have at least a preliminary diagnosis before admitting a patient to a hospital. If that patient is hospitalized for months, you'd better believe a diagnosis would be required by the hospital's medical director and whatever organization is covering the substantial bill.
Bill Duby's claim he was confined to a hospital for months for an illness that could not be diagnosed is pure garbage.
I would believe he was confined to a hospital for a while, though. It's not a hospital that would cut away a chunk of his belly fat, though.
Based on my recollection of a bottle of stuff called "Tegretol" on his desk, I'd believe his hospital specialized in psychiatric illnesses and the huge gash on his belly was somehow related to probably the up side of bi-polar disease. Think about it: if you are so pumped on a bi-polar high you might be bold enough to say something to a person who didn't really appreciate your psychic awareness and that person answered your spiritual insights with a knife.
As far as the gold gloves champ goes, I heard something about that in passing. But Bill was built like a pole vaulter - wiry. He didn't have the body mass you would find in a boxer of his height. Bill's foster mother proudly showed me pictures of "Billy" as a high school pole vaulter and kept some of the trophys and awards Bill earned for pole vaulting. Boxing at a high level (basically a professional level) immediately after a long stint as a pole vaulter just plain isn't possible for any man. The two sports require two different muscle groups and two very different body types. There is no way Bill was a gold gloves boxer - unless he was boxing the Xmas decorations while wearing gold lamè gloves.
Relationships with 200 women would be for the most part after or near when he got divorced and before he started SRF. This would be approximately a 4 to 5 year period. This would mean he had about forty or fifty per year, or about four per month, average. This includes the time he was with Angela Silva, and when he was with Marc Reymont, and when he was at the Berkeley Psychic Institute (which he says he spent with only Angela), not to mention the years of meditation or months in the hospital, etc.
Bill's self-described prowess in female coition exceeds even Tiger Woods' record-setting achievements in that area. Pair this with what he said about himself as a young man – that he was very shy and girls were not attracted to him and you'll see this dubious achievement as nothing more than a tall tale.
So, commingled with these sexual encounters were…
About six years spent at the Berkeley Psychic Institute and Marc Reymont (another spiritual teacher). We are already over the 4 to 5 years available, but let’s continue.
During this time, Bill claimed he was also a student of Dr. Gene Scott, the infamous TV preacher who was famous for bellowing "get on the phone" whenever he wanted you to hand over your money. He never said when or for how long. He also never could describe the facilities at Gene Scott's school.
He spent seven years or so in isolated meditation, doing nothing but lying there with his arms crossed across his chest. When? Certainly not when he was in the Army or when he was married and supporting his wife and two kids, or when he was working in the card club, or when he was in the hospital.
By the time he told his story to me, the "seven years" thing was quietly dropped, probably because Bill started to realize the timeline was as crooked as he was. However, he did continue to say he spent a significant time in meditation lying on his bed in "the coffin pose", arms crossed over his chest and saying he would get up only to "eat, sleep, shit and fuck".
Perhaps his deep meditation happened when he was simultaneously studying the nine great scriptures.
My take: Bill shoved a Bible under his pillow while he "meditated" thinking the words would magically arise from the pages directly into his noggin. Or maybe one of his street buddies alternately bashed him in the head with the Bible, The Koran, The Torah and any other scripture found in the gutter.
He studied the nine great scriptures. He didn’t mean that he simply read them. He clearly stated, numerous times, that he studied all of them in depth. This gave him credibility as a spiritual leader, knowledgeable in the field of spirituality and religion. How long would it take to study one of these works? Let’s say that he is extraordinary and that he could read and assimilate one of these scriptures in a few months. We would be talking about over two years for the extraordinary feat of reading seven enormous books and absorbing every key topic. It's a superhuman task.
In fact, it is common that a true study of any ONE scripture takes years. Ask a priest. Ask a Rabbi. Hell, ask one of Bill's fellow students at that Bible College!
As Bill frequently said he not only was a "bad student" and claimed to have dyslexia since he was a young boy, would Bill have the tenacity and personal learning skills to have studied any damn scripture for any longer than a few minutes? Considering Bill's attention span lasted a few milliseconds unless he was engaged in an all-night screaming tirade about a follower's unsubstantiated crimes or just because he was too wound up to sleep, I don't think he could sit still long enough to turn a page. Even if he did have the patience and studious discipline to study a scripture, if he really did have dyslexia, it would have slowed him down substantially.
In reality, Bill could have got through less than one tenth of one of his "nine great scriptures" in the time he had available. That means he could read somewhere around a few chapters of the Bible - maybe it was those few chapters he made us read over and over again?
By the way, can you, the reader, name the nine great scriptures? Bill never mentioned all of them and almost never quoted from any "great scripture" except the Bible. And even then, Bill misused and misquoted the Bible in order to reinterpret the meaning of scripture. He re-defined the Bible to match his own twisted and perverse perspective on mind control.
He claims to have “worked with” about 25,000 people in spiritual matters. These numbers are also highly exaggerated - that means it is a steaming pile of dung.
He was making these claims in the 1990’s. From 1983 until the 1990’s he has only worked with the people who came into the Spiritual Rights Foundation. According to the associate member list, about 6,000 people had come to the Spiritual Rights Foundation from its beginning in 1982 until 1996 (and yes, that does account for the numbering system not starting at zero - so stop splitting insubstantial hairs). And even fewer people arrived after 1996. William Duby's claim just does not hold up.
At least one third to one half of these people only came once and/or never met Rev. Bill. His claim would mean he "worked with" (come in contact with) about 3,000 to 4,000 people in the last 15 years.
in fact, very few people got to meet Rev. Bill Duby - only one in ten at best.
To hold water, he would have "worked with" about 21,000 to 22,000 people in the 11 years after his divorce and before he started the Spiritual Rights Foundation in 1982.
That amounts to a small audience of brand new people every day of the year with no time off for holidays. This is all going on concurrently with the above mentioned activities, including the seven years Bill spent in the "coffin pose" getting up only to "eat, sleep, shit and fuck". So, I guess you'll have to adjust accordingly - meaning you would have to subtract seven years from the eleven years after his divorce and the day he started SRF. That means you'd have three years to see over 21,000 people. That means Bill would have "worked with" SEVEN THOUSAND people a year.
But that's only twenty people a day for 365 days a year. So if each person took only an hour of Bill's time, he'd have four whole hours to eat, sleep, shit and fuck a day. Crap, I can't even eat three squares a day in four hours. Don't ask how long the rest takes me.
During its heyday, the Spiritual Rights Foundation saw at most 3 fresh faces per MONTH (not per day). There were fewer and fewer of them over time. Actually, two years after I showed up, the number of new faces we saw began to dwindle to a few every couple of months then pretty much crashed to zero by the time Bill dropped dead.
As you can clearly see he was a great con artist. No one dared to call him on any of these boasts and exaggerations lest they be placed on the hot seat and brutally shunned and chastised.
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The events listed in this timeline are events that either Bill himself or the Spiritual Rights Foundation lists as Bill's Dubi-ous achievements. The dates are as accurate as we can recall and are based again on Bill's own statements, Bill's folklore or official biography published by the Spiritual Rights Foundation.
If you take a few moments to think it through, this time line of events is utterly impossible. There is no way any one individual can accomplish that amount of items in that amount of time.
This time line clearly shows how Rev. William (Bill) Duby concocted a tall tale to enamor his women and his followers.
But to many of his formerly-faithful, there is only one notable event:
Reverend William Duby dropped face-first
dead on the floor December 5, 2001.
dead on the floor December 5, 2001.
A few observations and clarifications of the post:
ReplyDeleteThe membership affiliation started at 2000. Therefore, you need to subtract that amount from the beginning amount of people who attended the place.
He stated he worked with over 25,000 people. Maybe he was including all the people he would talk to who called in for a free reading on the radio show in the future? Problem is, he said that in the early stages of the place before the radio show started.He was called the street preacher in Emeryville while living there and working in his uncles card room. Who knows how many he actually preached to?
I don't ever remember him saying he slept with over 200 woman. He boasted he had a friend Richard who was supposed to be able to read woman and gave him tips on how to get inside their pants!
He often said, he went to some kind of ashram or spiritual place and learned to stay focused during meditation. If you drifted off they would whack you on your tail bone to bring you in a state of awareness (Back into the body)
He swore him and Angela Silva dematerialized while meditating in an Emeryville residential hotel. Supposedly, the whole hotel occupancy was going beserk!
I remember him starting to get into Gene Scott while just starting SRF, so I don't think he actually was a student other than watching on television. He tithed to Scott and got much of his inspiration of tithing and bible study, not to mention keeping people up all night like Scott did with his followers.
He claimed he owned a house in SF with his wife and gave it all up and a small fortune when he got sick and divorced. He claimed he had a blood disease and was given his last rights when he had a vision and was told by a higher authority in a vision to get up off his death bed and start SRF. SRF letters were on his mind for a few years before he knew what those letters would stand for.
As for computer programmer: The Army supposedly taught him while serving at the Marin headlands and Nike missle range. No doubt much that has been written about his time line and his accomplishments can be debunked, but I believe there is some truth to his exploits, we just don't know what is true inside all that was false.
It's far easier to determine what among Bill Duby's exploits is false, as they won't pass the sniff test. Very little of his claims are verifiable. Sure, Bill was in the Army. He may have been posted to the Marin Headlands, as it was indeed an Army installation. However, Bill had no other recollections of his Army enlistment other than saying he remembered where the fucking missiles were pointed.
DeleteBill Duby was a consummate conman. There was so little "truth" coming from his mouth, there is no choice but to consider all of Bill's tall tales and psychotic insights as nothing more than either the delusions of a psychiatric patient or the calculated and deliberate methods of a conman.
I'll issue this challenge: who among us will bring absolute verification of Bill's superhuman claims?
Statements from the Witches, the fat guy or anyone who says they heard it from someone who once knew a guy who may have had a cousin who saw Duby on the street doesn't count. And that Duby made a statement in your presence does not make it true. In fact, that's a good reason to suspect it's a lie.
Who can show Bill Duby was the anointed heir to the Bostwick teachings? Who can point out the nine great scriptures? Who can show he actually did all that he claimed?
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Yeah there was a lot of confusion about all the wierd information and all the secrets as well, why would there be so many secrets if things where ok?
ReplyDeleteI think he was very psycotic, listening to all the false information, a lot of it to wierd to be true.
All the things stated were from Bill himself or from his women and website.
ReplyDeleteThe post illustrates how unlikely Bill could have done all or even some of the things they say he did.
There is almost no chance the Army taught a 19 year old buck private how to program a computer in two years in 1963. That was done in universities.
He never talked about the ashram thing. He did adopt some of the methods but that is available on TV shows and books.
Angela spoke of the de-materialization thing. Her description in The American Spirit Newspaper sounded more like an LSD trip than anything else. They never did it again, nor did they teach anyone else how to do it. Interesting conduct for people who were teaching the important aspects of spirituality.
Bill alternately said he had a blood disease, gangrene, and then unknown diseases that physicians could not diagnose. He did say he was declared "legally insane" by the government and drew disability benefits. Maybe that was the mystery disease that kept him in the hospital?
With so many unlikely and untruths - like his claim to me that he studied with Gene Scott, Bill's whole history is in question.
Actually, I once looked up court records. He was divorced and he did have a foreclosure on a house in Richmond. In a sense, he did "walk away" from a small fortune.
But those are all spins on a questionable life and a questionable set of credentials as a spiritual teacher.
While it was not technically an ashram, he did say he had an experience learning how to meditate without drifting off, so whatever this place was, his storyline was always he learned how to keep focused and stay awake for hours while not drifting off in thought or sleep.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that the house in question was in Richmond, not SF. All I know is he supposedly left the house in divorce to his wife after he got up off his death bed.
I know he never studied with Gene Scott in person, but would watch for hours, usually after 9pm at night when Scott had his university/ministry on the local channel in the bay area. Scott was actually an accomplished historian of the Bible and very dedicated at exposing a lot of television evangelists claiming false adversities hitting their ministries. He was entertaining and was a character. So was Bill Duby, but he worked on his own church adversites, the ones that he created by projecting it within unassuming students and staff members. You have entities destroying this church, and your family, so we have to have the whole church against you. I'll make sure your castigated as the evil pick of the week and through spiritual torture techniques will break your will down until you confess to something you don't even know you're aware of doing.
Either way, anyway it was always the same....It was about him saving someone or averting disaster in their lives by changing their attitude in thinking and promoting his powers, when in reality he was projecting his fears and anxieties in losing control of controlling others lives!
Mason's writing on the part about the nine great scriptures was absoluteley hilarious. I was laughing till I cried. Which reminds of how Mason showed me once the psychic reading 'ads' the academy people had up on their website. There was a whole parade of bafoons all of which were reading each other. Mason could predict what each person would say about the other, and how the other would recieve it. For instance, Ross was reading Rick, and Rick would come on and say, "why am I fat and can't have a relationship." Mason as Ross would say, 'I am not seeing anything yet, no matching pictures here". Masons commentary was hilarious.
ReplyDeleteThe person who is anonymous here has some very interesting things to say, and knowledge that seems to go way back. I wonder if anonymous knows something about why Bill was kicked out of the Emeryville house?
I just have to add to the timeline commentary:
ReplyDeleteFirst, Bill Duby claimed to be a Don Juan, a "spiritual pimp" and to have known all about women from hard experience. He then boasted about his exploits with women. Then, when his women followers (actually, I meant to say his two sister wives) got uncomfortable, he started saying he was more like a wallflower with women and only learned about women from studying female energy.
If his conduct at SRF was any indication, Bill was studying a lot more than female energy - he was studying their intimate anatomy more closely.
It was a fact that Bill moved from his house in Emeryville to the safety of the SRF backyard apartment. It was later revealed that Bill had been implicated in a molestation scandal involving Angela Silva's daughter. After Bill made some payoffs, the victim refused to cooperate with law enforcement, leaving Bill off the hook.
Many SRF members later discovered the Emeryville PD paid Bill a visit and suggested he leave town at his earliest opportunity (like, in ten minutes) if he knew what was good for him.
Ironically, Bill moved in with Angela and lived with her until his death.
Bill was also rumored to have molested another member of SRF as well as engaged in sex acts so aggressive, they could be called rape if anyone had the stomach to witness it.
I also recall a story when one woman was said to be jealous because a man she had dated later coupled with another woman.
Bill's solution: force this woman to go into the couple's bedroom with a camera and record them on video.
The couple was also forced to comply. And what they had to do, I just don't want to hear.
As far as Bill's claims to be a womanizer - I do not believe that.
However, as far as Bill's claim to be a fucking pervert and proud of it - yeah, that sounds like the truth.
Kind of like Bill's boast he was considered "legally insane".
Or that he was an Emeryville card sharp and street preacher who could "charm the skin off a snake".
So, if you are looking for the truth among Bill's exploits, there they are.
And they aren't pretty.
What are the good things Bill did in his life?
There are a few. But are they related to the practices at SRF?
Better yet, is all the bad cancelled out by the few kernels of truth?
I was there in 1984 when they started up at the house in Ellsworth and the information I got was that rev. Bill was about 43 yrs old then. So he must have been born around 1942 or something like that. He was the same age as my parents. I guess Angela was about 36 yrs old then.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I cannot add anything to the timeline of our illustrious William H Duby, his exploits sound similar to my own "Guru". That Guru being none other than the grand duke of delusions, Lewis S Bostwick.
ReplyDeleteI cannot speak much about Lewises background except that he was both a Rosecrucian and a former Scientologist. Lewis did speak of his background with Scientology, but often in hushed tones, as if he didn't want anyone really hearing about it. Knowing how Scientology behaves, I think Lewis might have some real reason to be paranoid. Especially if he did go up the ladder a bit and learn some pretty powerful techniques. I never knew much about Scientology until just a few years ago when I saw some Youtube videos and read other things on the web.
Something did happen to Lewis many years ago, something pretty bad. I suspect it had to do with the death of his first wife, which he might be directly responsible for. I don't have any way of proving this, but his personality and behavior has changed several times over the years. Some of those changes I bet were due to substance abuse, others to manic eppisodes.
Lewis was hospitalized at least once in his lifetime. When it happened I do not know, but only someone like myself and Lewis who have been on the receiving end of lock down facilities would understand. Things Lewis said made no sense, until after I went through my own ordeal. Then it all started falling into place. He was quite possibly drugged at one point. He clearly had a hatred of all things psychiatric in nature. It is clear from his writings and his behavior. He also had a strong bias against psychology, but then again if it would shine a light on your delusions, wouldn't you?
Lewis lied about his history, or rather mythologized many things. I have seen similar behavior in other Guru's.
However, there is one thing which Mike brought to my attention which says a lot about our guru's and their personality.
None of them, not Lewis, Duby, Hubbard or even Susan H Bostwick could enjoy their money. NOPE! They could all have done a bow out, but they never did (I don't think Susan ever will either!)
The answer we all want to know is why? That you will find by looking at their personalities and seeing them for what they really are. It is deep and complex, but comes back to the fact that they are Narcissistic to their cores.
Jeffrey
Anyone remember Reverend Bill Duby lifting his shirt and displaying a long, ragged scar saying it was where his physicians "cut him open" to remove gangrenous tissue? Anyone also recall that he claimed the surgery was a last resort to treat a disease his physicians could not diagnose or treat for some number of months?
ReplyDeleteNow, does anyone recall how Reverend William Duby told tale after tale of his exploits on the street? Isn't it interesting how Bill went from street hustler and class clown to hospitalized invalid without him revealing how he got from the street to a hospital bed?
My theory: Bill was doing his usual psychotic ramblings and spiritual hustle to a guy with a short fuse. That short-tempered person drew a really sharp thing and swung it in the general direction of Bill's liver.
Bill being who he is, went home to treat his wound but didn't know how nor was he qualified to treat a really big knife wound. After the would became gangrenous, he appeared at the hospital for treatment. Either complications or his general psychotic state kept him under a physician's watchful eye for a while - maybe not months but a while.
The experience left him with the scar he displayed whenever he wanted to impress someone.
That's my theory. Anyone have a better one?